1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:11,610 --> 00:00:09,079 [Applause] 3 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:11,620 my name is Vincent Richie and as the 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:13,449 slide says I'm going to be talking about 5 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:15,610 investigation of embittered individual 6 00:00:19,409 --> 00:00:16,900 and combined effects of blah blah blah 7 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:19,419 blah blah that's boring so we're gonna 8 00:00:24,479 --> 00:00:21,520 get rid of it I think a better title for 9 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:24,489 this talk would be what works and what 10 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,800 works on earth and I'm going to be 11 00:00:31,529 --> 00:00:28,720 talking specifically specifically about 12 00:00:34,979 --> 00:00:31,539 RNAi oligomerization but this can really 13 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:34,989 be applied to any sort of biological or 14 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:36,220 prebiotic product that we're interested 15 00:00:41,969 --> 00:00:40,390 in so I want to start out by talking 16 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:41,979 about two different approaches to 17 00:00:46,109 --> 00:00:44,769 prebiotic chemical experiments the first 18 00:00:48,899 --> 00:00:46,119 of which is a more traditional approach 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:48,909 and we start out by looking at modern 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:52,210 life we take these cells we look at 21 00:00:55,469 --> 00:00:53,290 what's inside of them we break them down 22 00:00:58,170 --> 00:00:55,479 into these simpler components we sort of 23 00:01:01,490 --> 00:00:58,180 pick our favorite component and then try 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:01,500 to replicate it in the lab abiotic ly 25 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:04,930 then we try to take the parameters that 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:08,280 work and apply them to the early Earth 27 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:10,930 so we look at this and we say where 28 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:12,330 could this have happened 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:14,940 but the problem is more often than not 30 00:01:19,430 --> 00:01:17,170 we get a system that doesn't look like 31 00:01:22,890 --> 00:01:19,440 anywhere on the early Earth or very 32 00:01:24,990 --> 00:01:22,900 dissimilar to the early Earth so an 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:25,000 alternative approach would be to start 34 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:30,210 with the earth we can take the earth and 35 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:32,200 take different parameters that describe 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:34,030 the different environments that we think 37 00:01:41,399 --> 00:01:37,930 were around before life and replicate 38 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:41,409 those conditions in the lab and see what 39 00:01:45,930 --> 00:01:44,350 comes out of it so as I said we're going 40 00:01:48,450 --> 00:01:45,940 to be talking about I'm going to be 41 00:01:50,190 --> 00:01:48,460 talking about RNA here but this can be 42 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:50,200 proteins or amino acids or whatever you 43 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:51,990 like 44 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:54,100 so we have conditions that foster 45 00:01:58,649 --> 00:01:56,860 prebiotic chemical reactions and we have 46 00:02:01,800 --> 00:01:58,659 conditions that were present on the 47 00:02:04,170 --> 00:02:01,810 early earth the key to finding that the 48 00:02:06,539 --> 00:02:04,180 pathways that are feasible for prebiotic 49 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:06,549 chemistry is to look in the overlap 50 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:10,720 between these two sets of conditions so 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:12,310 if we're applying this to RNA 52 00:02:17,179 --> 00:02:14,170 oligomerization we might be interested 53 00:02:21,839 --> 00:02:17,189 in several variables and 54 00:02:24,449 --> 00:02:21,849 temperature pressure and any catalysts 55 00:02:25,949 --> 00:02:24,459 and for the sake of this talk we're 56 00:02:26,970 --> 00:02:25,959 gonna stick with these three and we're 57 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:26,980 going to be talking about aqueous 58 00:02:33,629 --> 00:02:31,599 catalysts so this figure shows all of 59 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:33,639 the conditions at least prior to this 60 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:35,920 week that have been explored in the 61 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:38,260 laboratory setting relating to RNA 62 00:02:46,009 --> 00:02:41,680 polymerization and we can compare that 63 00:02:48,899 --> 00:02:46,019 to the PT space that we think represents 64 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:48,909 early Earth's surface environments and 65 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,980 we see immediately that the majority of 66 00:02:56,429 --> 00:02:52,720 this PT space has not been filled out 67 00:02:59,250 --> 00:02:56,439 yet we're sort of stuck at one bar and a 68 00:03:00,929 --> 00:02:59,260 sort of moderate temperatures we did a 69 00:03:03,899 --> 00:03:00,939 decent job with temperatures as a 70 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:03,909 community and we could do a similar 71 00:03:10,679 --> 00:03:07,930 comparison for our catalysts so we have 72 00:03:12,209 --> 00:03:10,689 several sets of metal catalysts 73 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:12,219 including uranium and the lanthanides 74 00:03:20,819 --> 00:03:16,540 that have been investigated as effective 75 00:03:21,839 --> 00:03:20,829 catalysts for oligomers ation and some 76 00:03:24,659 --> 00:03:21,849 of these work and some of them don't 77 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:24,669 work so well but we can compare that to 78 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:26,799 the elements that we would expect to 79 00:03:31,289 --> 00:03:29,169 find in a prebiotic early Earth 80 00:03:33,349 --> 00:03:31,299 environment such as the open ocean so in 81 00:03:38,849 --> 00:03:33,359 that case the major cations would be 82 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:38,859 sodium magnesium calcium and iron so 83 00:03:42,539 --> 00:03:40,900 there's not a lot of overlap but there 84 00:03:44,849 --> 00:03:42,549 is some overlap we have magnesium and 85 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:44,859 calcium we're still missing sodium and 86 00:03:50,490 --> 00:03:48,400 iron well let's take magnesium and 87 00:03:52,589 --> 00:03:50,500 calcium for a second 88 00:03:54,689 --> 00:03:52,599 those have only been explored at one 89 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,699 specific concentration by the sawai 90 00:03:59,369 --> 00:03:57,120 group in the in the 70s and 80s and that 91 00:04:00,780 --> 00:03:59,379 was only at 12 and a half million more 92 00:04:01,979 --> 00:04:00,790 so we don't know what increasing or 93 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:01,989 decreasing the concentration would 94 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:06,040 really do so we have this large empty 95 00:04:12,449 --> 00:04:11,470 plot with one data point on it so we 96 00:04:14,399 --> 00:04:12,459 don't know what the rest of this looks 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:14,409 like so what do we do well we do 98 00:04:18,149 --> 00:04:16,570 experiments in our lab these are 99 00:04:19,649 --> 00:04:18,159 relatively simple experiments they're 100 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:19,659 done in micro centrifuge tubes they're 101 00:04:23,790 --> 00:04:22,150 100 microliters experiments and all we 102 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:23,800 do is add our aqueous metal solution at 103 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:24,820 the concentration that we're interested 104 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:27,580 in and we add our nucleotide now in this 105 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:29,650 case we're using a phosphor emitters of 106 00:04:31,770 --> 00:04:30,190 light 107 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:31,780 inactivated nucleotide is not 108 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:33,970 particularly realistic in its own right 109 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:36,820 necessarily but it is useful in the lab 110 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:39,280 for probing these reactions and seeing 111 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:40,980 how they'll behave and respond to 112 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:42,730 different variables like temperature 113 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:47,740 pressure and different catalysts so we 114 00:04:53,940 --> 00:04:50,710 take that solution we wait three days 115 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:53,950 and then we extract our products and we 116 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:57,130 measure them with maldi-tof m/s and we 117 00:05:00,330 --> 00:04:58,330 get a mass spec that looks something 118 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:00,340 like this where each peak corresponds to 119 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:03,520 the addition of a single nucleotide and 120 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:05,650 again this could be a polypeptide or 121 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:21,750 hmm here we have a max length of six so 122 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:23,980 this is how we're going to denote the 123 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:26,740 success or assess the extent of the this 124 00:05:33,630 --> 00:05:31,570 reaction going forward so you got a 125 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:33,640 preview of these results but these are 126 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:35,470 those max lengths for different 127 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:37,750 concentrations of calcium chloride and 128 00:05:42,330 --> 00:05:40,240 we see that there's a sort of optimal 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:42,340 concentration right around one molar but 130 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:45,250 this is a relatively broad profile here 131 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:47,130 and and it works over a range of 132 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:49,720 concentrations we can also compare that 133 00:05:54,450 --> 00:05:51,220 to our negative controls which are 134 00:05:56,490 --> 00:05:54,460 represented by the orange line this is 135 00:06:01,650 --> 00:05:56,500 containing no metal catalyst it's just 136 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:01,660 water and imp a but again we don't want 137 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:03,610 to be stuck at 1 PT point we want to 138 00:06:07,230 --> 00:06:05,140 expand this and look at a range of 139 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:07,240 temperatures and also a range of 140 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:09,210 pressures and if we do experiments at 141 00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:12,880 one kil bar for example perhaps we can 142 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:14,169 then extrapolate and then fill out a 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:18,430 large chunk of this PT space we can do 144 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:19,810 our high-pressure experiments in a 145 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:21,340 static pressure vessel by loading our 146 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:24,130 experiments into syringes and these 147 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:25,450 syringes contain our experiments and 148 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:27,910 when we apply pressure with water we use 149 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:29,830 this group on that pressure is 150 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:35,370 redirected to the sample so we have our 151 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:38,080 concentration profile we need to pick 152 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:41,050 one or two or however many 153 00:06:43,809 --> 00:06:42,499 concentration points that we're 154 00:06:44,859 --> 00:06:43,819 interested in to do our other 155 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:44,869 experiments so we're gonna pick one 156 00:06:52,659 --> 00:06:50,270 molar and this is what we get we have 157 00:06:55,239 --> 00:06:52,669 our 1 bar our atmospheric experiments in 158 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:55,249 orange and our one kill bar experiments 159 00:06:58,389 --> 00:06:56,509 in white and we see that there really 160 00:07:00,760 --> 00:06:58,399 isn't a large difference between these 161 00:07:03,309 --> 00:07:00,770 two so we can say in this particular 162 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:03,319 system not all systems that pressure 163 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:07,969 isn't particularly significant we also 164 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:11,360 see that there is a moderate decrease in 165 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:12,800 oligomers lengths as you increase 166 00:07:21,489 --> 00:07:18,409 temperature so we can do this with the 167 00:07:24,189 --> 00:07:21,499 other metals as well we have calcium we 168 00:07:25,509 --> 00:07:24,199 did this with sodium and magnesium but 169 00:07:28,649 --> 00:07:25,519 what about iron we've heard a lot about 170 00:07:31,629 --> 00:07:28,659 iron today and throughout the conference 171 00:07:34,029 --> 00:07:31,639 what can I do for RNA we know it it's 172 00:07:36,339 --> 00:07:34,039 good for amino and acid synthesis and a 173 00:07:38,619 --> 00:07:36,349 variety of other reactions what about 174 00:07:40,269 --> 00:07:38,629 RNA oligomerization but this is a little 175 00:07:42,249 --> 00:07:40,279 bit more complicated but because we have 176 00:07:46,449 --> 00:07:42,259 to keep our systems and oxic otherwise 177 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:46,459 we'll just end up with a rusty tube so 178 00:07:50,739 --> 00:07:48,289 instead of using microcentrifuge tube we 179 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:50,749 use gas tight exit a nerve isles we load 180 00:07:55,059 --> 00:07:53,209 our nucleotide into these vials and we 181 00:07:58,959 --> 00:07:55,069 flush the headspace with pure nitrogen 182 00:08:02,980 --> 00:07:58,969 to expel any oxygen then we inject our 183 00:08:07,809 --> 00:08:02,990 anoxic iron solution again we wait three 184 00:08:11,829 --> 00:08:07,819 days extract our products and we end up 185 00:08:14,049 --> 00:08:11,839 with the mass spec so these are the 186 00:08:16,359 --> 00:08:14,059 results of our iron experiments and 187 00:08:17,679 --> 00:08:16,369 again well note first that we're on a 188 00:08:22,109 --> 00:08:17,689 log scale now just to make everything 189 00:08:25,509 --> 00:08:22,119 easier to see but again we end up with a 190 00:08:30,159 --> 00:08:25,519 local optimum concentration right around 191 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:30,169 100 millimolar and again we have our 192 00:08:38,889 --> 00:08:33,740 negative control down here at 2 but we 193 00:08:43,329 --> 00:08:38,899 get up to about about 6 we don't want to 194 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:43,339 be stuck so we explored this optimal 195 00:08:48,819 --> 00:08:45,410 concentration over temperature as well 196 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:48,829 just like we did for calcium and we get 197 00:08:53,710 --> 00:08:50,540 a nice linear relationship with 198 00:09:00,800 --> 00:08:58,400 but this time all of these experiments 199 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:00,810 are above our baseline our negative 200 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:02,520 control here so even at our highest 201 00:09:09,890 --> 00:09:03,990 temperatures we're still seeing an 202 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:09,900 enhancement of oligomerization however 203 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:12,750 this concentration is outside the 204 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:15,330 feasible limits for prebiotic iron in 205 00:09:23,570 --> 00:09:21,870 the early ocean so we have our optimal 206 00:09:25,250 --> 00:09:23,580 concentration and then this is sort of 207 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:25,260 the range of estimates in the literature 208 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:29,760 for prebiotic ocean iron so we have this 209 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:33,240 other point up here this is sort of the 210 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:36,210 maximum feasible concentration so let's 211 00:09:40,820 --> 00:09:38,040 take that instead and ask us the 212 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:40,830 ourselves the same question well this is 213 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:43,170 what it looks like in blue and we don't 214 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:46,260 see that decrease in oligomerization 215 00:09:50,330 --> 00:09:48,450 with temperature in fact we beat out the 216 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:50,340 higher concentration when we get out to 217 00:10:00,980 --> 00:09:57,120 80 or 90 so we've added some of these 218 00:10:06,260 --> 00:10:00,990 missing elements to our table we have 219 00:10:08,570 --> 00:10:06,270 our four primary metal cations in the 220 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:08,580 early ocean what can we do with that 221 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:10,740 well we we can start to ask ourselves 222 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:13,620 what a more complex environment might 223 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:15,180 look like but we're still going to keep 224 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:16,770 it relatively simple we're going to look 225 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:22,080 at the open ocean we have our controls 226 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:23,690 are negative in our positive control so 227 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:26,880 2 for no catalysts and with 1 molar 228 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:28,650 calcium chloride which is what we use as 229 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:30,390 our positive positive we get Penta MERS 230 00:10:35,810 --> 00:10:33,780 and then before we put everything in one 231 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:35,820 pot let's just make sure we know what 232 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:37,860 each thing does individually so if we 233 00:10:43,010 --> 00:10:40,440 look at calcium at modern ocean 234 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:43,020 concentrations we see that we get 235 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:47,450 trimers sodium sulfate we get dimers 236 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:51,570 magnesium chloride trimers and sodium 237 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:54,570 chloride dimers so when we put these 238 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:56,310 together we can ask ourselves okay are 239 00:10:59,270 --> 00:10:57,690 we going to get trimers or ever again 240 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:59,280 get timers or are we going to get three 241 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:01,920 plus two plus three plus two turns out 242 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:03,750 that we just get three so these aren't 243 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:05,310 additive at least in terms of the 244 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:05,889 lengths that 245 00:11:11,099 --> 00:11:07,569 we get we can't really say anything 246 00:11:15,629 --> 00:11:11,109 about yields because we're using multi 247 00:11:17,249 --> 00:11:15,639 and it's not quantifiable but we're 248 00:11:20,729 --> 00:11:17,259 interested in the early ocean so we add 249 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:20,739 in iron and when we mix that with our 250 00:11:27,329 --> 00:11:23,790 other components at our other salts at 251 00:11:29,629 --> 00:11:27,339 modern concentrations and take out the 252 00:11:31,949 --> 00:11:29,639 sulfate because there wasn't any sulfate 253 00:11:34,019 --> 00:11:31,959 we can run similar experiments and we 254 00:11:36,599 --> 00:11:34,029 see that again the biggest sort of wins 255 00:11:39,359 --> 00:11:36,609 so iron which is up here at five is 256 00:11:44,999 --> 00:11:39,369 pretty close to what we get for our iron 257 00:11:47,849 --> 00:11:45,009 rich synthetic seawater let's push it a 258 00:11:49,319 --> 00:11:47,859 little bit farther because we don't know 259 00:11:51,059 --> 00:11:49,329 exactly what the Hadean look like as 260 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:51,069 we've discussed throughout this 261 00:11:59,059 --> 00:11:54,730 conference so let's test a range of 262 00:12:04,169 --> 00:12:01,979 so here we have twice modern salinity 263 00:12:07,739 --> 00:12:04,179 half modern solidity and modern salinity 264 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:07,749 in green and we see that as we would 265 00:12:13,949 --> 00:12:10,860 probably expect slightly higher salinity 266 00:12:15,629 --> 00:12:13,959 produces slightly longer oligomers all 267 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:15,639 of these are above our negative control 268 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:20,410 and as I showed before there's no 269 00:12:25,409 --> 00:12:22,079 relationship with temperature because 270 00:12:33,749 --> 00:12:25,419 we're sort of below that 10 millimolar 271 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:33,759 level for iron so our takeaway points 272 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:35,410 from this is that iron is very 273 00:12:40,699 --> 00:12:38,290 significant not only for RNA synthesis 274 00:12:42,769 --> 00:12:40,709 but for a variety of prebiotic reactions 275 00:12:45,109 --> 00:12:42,779 but more than that I want to emphasize 276 00:12:47,909 --> 00:12:45,119 the importance of starting with 277 00:12:50,999 --> 00:12:47,919 environmental considerations and working 278 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:51,009 our way up from there and it doesn't 279 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:52,689 have to be earth it can be Europa 280 00:12:56,939 --> 00:12:54,970 Enceladus or Titan or whatever we're 281 00:12:58,889 --> 00:12:56,949 interested in but we have to interpret 282 00:13:00,239 --> 00:12:58,899 our data and design our experiments with 283 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:00,249 our environment in mind that way we're 284 00:13:08,549 --> 00:13:02,980 not shoehorning an environment on to the 285 00:13:10,829 --> 00:13:08,559 early Earth so with that I'll thank our 286 00:13:13,070 --> 00:13:10,839 funding agencies and I'll take any